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2006年02月


      刚看了一下CCTV2经济半小时, 讨论的话题是博客值多少钱,采访了新浪的陈彤和董路、徐静蕾等名人博客。

         董路是体坛周报的知名记者,他的态度是:博客们为写作这上面的内容,付出劳动,这钱应该是自己的,董路还表示,有地产商就想问过他,能不能在他的博客上投放广告。

        但新浪的主编陈彤的看法与博客们显然不一样:新浪提供了博客空间,技术人员为之付出了很多努力,所以,这上面的广告费应该是新浪的。

     名人为新浪博客带来巨大的流量,新浪也为名人提供了继续出名的场所,比如徐静蕾巨大的访问量,给了徐和FANS一个交流的机会。

      但如果博客上加了广告,这收益到底是新浪的还是博客们的呢?

      央视的记者也就这个问题追问了一下陈彤,陈不想在这个问题上多谈,表示,在广告利益是归新浪还归博客这个问题上,没有规定,与用户也没有就此有协议。

      如果博客们创造的内容产生的收益,比如广告收入是新浪的,因为空间和技术平台是新浪的,那是不是用 WORD写的文章创造的广告收入是微软的呢?微软也提供了技术和平台呀。

     不过这两者存在不同,因为用户购买了微软的WORD的使用费,但新浪的博客空间是免费提供给用户的,所以博客也不应该获得文章所获得的利益。

     谁让你没有给新浪付博客空间使用费呢? 

     

     

          

  

   

    

        




   毛向辉的这篇《GOOGEL的边界》显示出对GOOGLE的看法已经到了离奇的地步。

   我有时相信一些理论家们的话,比如人类20世纪后期发展的加速度越来越快,我们正在面临一个进化临界点。

   但认为GOOGLE是上帝的这样论题显得过于夸张了。

   人们的想象总是很有限的,就象中世纪的僧侣一样,博学得认为上帝统治着这个世界。

   说网络巨头可以统治世界,也许是我们这个技术时代最有趣的认识论之一。

   也许摩西是个现实主义者,在宗教的气氛中成长,而在现实的磨难面前,摩西选择了宗教认识论作为最有效最实用的统治工具。





    摘要:

CNNIC发布第17次互联网报告 网民达1.11亿

  新浪科技讯 1月17日,中国互联网络信息中心(以下简称为CNNIC)发布《第十七次中国互联网络发展状况统计报告》,截至2005年12月31日,我国网民人数达到1.11亿,比2004年末增加了1700万,网民普及率达到8.5%, 而目前全球网民约9.7亿,平均普及率为15.2%。

  报告显示,在1.11亿网民中,宽带上网网民数为6430万人,比2004年增加了2150万人,增长率为50.2%。而拨号上网网民人数、专线上网网民人数则表现为不同程度的下降。 
 
       目前我国上网计算机数达到4950万,比2004年末增加了790万,增长率达到19.0%。

  截至2005年12月31日,我国大陆的IPv4地址数已达到74,391,296个,仅次于美国和日本,位居世界第三。我国域名总数为2,592,410个,CN下注册的域名首次突破百万大关,达到1,096,924个。网站数为6    (全文共1853字)——点击此处阅读全文




     试用了一下IE7.0的BETA, 对FEED的支持非常好,我已经把新浪点点通的OPML全部导入到IE中,不过导入FEED后,排序变得和原来不一样了。

      就个人的使用情况感觉,相信RSS的阅读器还会有很多智能化功能出现。

     最大的变化是对FEED的支持,在正式推出后,FEED的使用情况会有数量级的飞跃。按去年的统计大概3%的网民知道订阅FEED,按照目前IE的占有率,估计至少会有20%左右的网民会使用FEED订阅,至少FEED的使用数量不会比收藏夹的使用率低,IE7上的图标设置应该会方便很多人使用FEED。

 这样的增长应会给优秀的FEED带来很多新的访问者。

 对现在各种各样的RSSreader造成致命冲击应该只是时间问题。

 对门户网站的影响也应该会逐渐显示出来。

 最近不少人谈论徐静蕾的BLOG访问量,也许只不过是门户的最后的余温,如果徐静蕾把BLOG放在一个小BSP,没那么多人会去读她写的东西。

 IE7就是RSS的渠道的最后一公里,到时,徐静蕾把BLOG搬出新浪,铁杆Fans们还是会订阅它,而不相干的人们也不会因为新浪这个渠道的推销就去看它。

 如果要看新闻,你只需要订阅几个新闻FEED,就不用再上新浪。(问题是:新浪编辑们对新闻编排的知识会如何转移)

 另外,IE7默认的搜索引擎是GOOGLE,这一点让人对微软刮目相看。

 




国内公司只有Feedsky,还被误认为search blogs,老外对中国web2.0了解着实有限。

Sponge Cell – the absorbful calendar
Hula Project - a calendar whose goal is to be fun and easy to use
Kiko - a new kind of online calendar
Trumba - an Online Calendar for Groups, Schools, Churches, and Family
eskobo - a Ajax desktop
Mayomi - used for mind mapping
Pageflakes - Ajax Desktop
Vimeo - upload and share Videos
Skobee - where friends come together to make plans
Shadows - Tag, comment, and rate your favorite web pages.
Gravee - a aew approach to search
YouTube - Broadcast yourself. Watch and share your videos worldwide!
Zimbra - a web based outlook/iCal/Thunderbird application
Furl - a web site where you can store information about web sites you visit
Smumug - The ultimate in photo sharing
NewsGator - an RSS aggregator
Blogniscient - the Bird’s Eye View of the Blogosphere
TinFinger - the human search engine
Shutterfly - an online photo service
mefeedia - the best place to find free videoblogs or video podcasts
PodDater - a new way to find a friend or a date
Feedster - search engine with tagging and a RSS Reader
Favoor - your personalised start page
Planzo - an online calendar that makes planning your day simple
Zazzle - let’s you create customized products, ranging from tshirts to stamps
Tailrank - finds the best content from thousands of blogs
TagWorld - like Flickr, socializes your photos, but it goes well beyond.
Nuvvo - learn something new
Dogear - better bookmarking
Yakalike - Yak about the sites you visit
Grouper - browse and share videos
Oddpost - web-based email and news aggregation
Qoop - is all about users creating content and selling products
iNods - aggregates blog and other edge review content and displays it in a centralized way
Lulu - publish and sell worldwide
rBloc - the agora for the new millenium. Selling, buying, meeting, thinking
BlockRocker
Blish - the easiest place to buy or sell digital content
Flagr - share all your favorite venues
FireAnt - delivers a rich media experience through a simple to use
Simple Hired - jow search made easy
veoh -internet television peercasting network
theadcloud - classified ads in your own way
Gather - a social news site that allows user to submit content and generate a revenue share based on activity on the site
Agatra - secure online password storage
Browsr - people powered directory
Oyogi - searchable question-and-answer site
CafePress - Create, Buy & Sell Unique Gifts
Renkoo - an event/calendaring application
StandPoint - a social encyclopedia of belief
Pixagogo - Share photos online - unlimited storage
Meebo - chat using ICQ, MSN, YAHOO or GTalk at the same time
Extratasty - Get your booze on!
Last.fm - the social music revolution
Jotspot - secure wiki hosting
Frappr - create a map for your group
Jeteye - search, package and share the digital world
Dabble DB - friendly and powerful way to share, manage and explore your information
Yedda - matching people with questions and people with answers
Writeboard - Collaborative writing software online
Shoutwire.com - internet news for the masses
iKarma - all the tools you need to document and promote your reputation
Kanoodle - provides targeted sponsored links
AirSet - Shared Online Calendars, Contacts and Lists for your
tech.memeorandum - exploring the convergence of daily life and technology
CalendarHub - Web Calendars
SuprGlu - gluing your life together.
pando - a tiny app that lets you email any size file or folder
Zigtag - personal internet librarian
Findory - a personalized newspaper that learns from the news you read
Backfence - captures community knowledge and makes it available to all
Clipmarks - clip and tag whatever you find on the web
Wayfaring - great new Google Maps application that allows you to build your own Google Map
gOFFICE - free web office suite home page
AllPeers - share exactly what you want with exactly who you want!
Orb - takes the home out of home entertainment!
Rallypoint - Online Collaboration
Zoozio - an ajax desktop
Blogbeat - real time blog analytics
Ziggs - search for people
Zoto - Photo Hosting
vSocial - the video clip sharing community
Boltfolio - Online Portfolio
Wink - search the web
Riya - Photo Search
AudibleWordcast - podcasting management.
Opinity - build your online personal reputation
reddit - what’s new online
Measure Map - blog statistics
gumshoo - free eBay search
bluepulse - mobile internet services
IMVU - the world’s greatest 3D instant messenger
Streamload MediaMax - store, organize, access, and share media
Ta-da List - to do list, simple, easy, fast, sharable
feedsky网站 - search blogs
JellyBarn INC - photo sharing
Native Text
Congoo - a premium content search engine
PODZINGER - unleashes the content within audio
RSS MAD - the most surfer friendly internet content aggregator
FeedTier - rss web feed generator
Phanfare - Better online photo and video albums
Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia
Fruitcast - podcast advertising
Pubsub - search the future
dPolls.com - create polls and vote for free
Flickr - photo sharing
Ning - create your own web apps
Ookles
Strongspace.com - Secure File Storage and Sharing
ZoomInfo - enhances people search
Castpost - broadcast your video & audio clips
Associated Content - the ultimate information and content exchange for media
YubNub - a “command line for the web”
Bloop
ProjectSpaces - makes team collaboration simple
FeedBurner - point your feed here and they’ll do the rest.
Bloglines - A web-based personal news aggregator
purevolume™ - We’re Listening To You
Fotolog - a great online community of interconnected photo-weblogs
Ourmedia - the goal is to expose, advance and preserve digital creativity at the
grassroots level
gabbr.com - why digg when you can gabb?
Gcast - make your voice heard.
Blinkx - search for video
Openomy - store files online
Riffs - your social recommender
ajchat - a simple ajax chat system
Spot Runner - put your business on TV
Myspace - meet people from your area in the country
News Alloy - RSS Reader, Blog Reader
Allmydata.com - unlimited free storage
Chatsum - a free add-on for your web browser that lets you chat
Pandora - find music you’ll love
LookLater - instant searchable bookmarks
30 Boxes - created for people looking for a robust yet simple social calendar
Blogger - create your blog Now
Jambo - a peer to peer personal area matching technology design to let people
Rollyo- roll your own search engine
Alexa - web search
Squishr - coming soon
Webjay - playlist community
Plazes - a grassroot approach to location-aware interaction
Noodly - a new service harnessing the power of user-generated content
Wondir - ask or answer questions on all topics
Diigo - Digest of Internet Information, Groups and Other stuff
Protopage - AJAX start page with RSS news
blummy - the bookmarklet management bookmarklet
Jots - a collaborative bookmarking system
Xdrive - Secure Online Storage
Vizu - interactive polls
Digg - THE DIGG
del.icio.us - a social bookmarks manager
Omnidrive - what you expect hosted storage to be
AlmondRocks - one of the fastest blog readers in the world.
Tagyu - Your tags, smarter
30Gigs.com - home to the 30 gigabyte webmail service
Writely - free web word processor
Simpy - tagging, social bookmarking and personal search engine
Gtalkr - allows you to go anywhere and have access to your Google
Talk account
Truveo - video search
egoSurf - ego surfing without the guilt.
Mozy - Remote Backup, its free, automatic and secure.
Quimble - Polls done right
Basecamp - a web-based tool that lets you manage and track projects
Pegasus News - a new, local media venture
Remember The Milk - he easiest and best way to manage your to-do lists online
Squidoo - create your own lens
PictureCloud.com - create your free picture cloud now.
NewsVine - social bookmarking and news site
Clipfire.com - find great deals from the best websites on the
Lexxe - a 3rd generation search engine
Lookster
PXN8.COM - photos made easy
Netvibes - personal news aggregator with RSS and Atom support
Facebook - an online directory that connects people through social networks
MyVideoKaraoke - the online video music clips arcade
Goowy - a rich experience site which helps you manage your digital lifestyle
Yelp - real people, real reviews
Smarkets - stock markets for products
Inform - a free online tool that will revolutionize how people read news on the web
Magnolia - content management suite
43things - social tagging
ShoZu - the simplest, quickest and smartest way to share pictures
Technorati - searches weblogs by keyword and for links
Platial - your collaborative atlas
Gmail - webbased mail service from Google
feedmarker - a free, web based bookmarker and newsreader with tagging
Mercora - music search and internet radio network
StumbleUpon - a free web-browser extension for discovering and sharing web sites
ClipShack - video for the online world
MeetWithApproval.com — A great idea for meetings, parties, friends
HomePortals - mix, modify and share
SpinSpy - social news network




  KESO讨论了RSS输出的问题桑林志偏向输出摘要,也有不少支持输出全文,keepwalking讨论了其中的各种观点。

  现在的BLOG基本是文字的,所以要讨论输出摘要还是全文,但如果是声音和图象为主,还需要讨论输出摘要还是全文吗?

  未来你只能输出摘要,看完50篇文章是有可能的,但要看完或者听完50个podcasting是不现实的。

   甚至你根本不需要摘要,评价和SNS更重要些,就象板儿砖DIGG

  摘要大多由BLOGGER自己手工完成,是一种关于信息本身的信息,有点象论文的摘要,但用在BLOG上总有点怪异。

   摘要的目的是要解决信息过载或者方便大家选择有用的信息,但手工或机器的摘要显然是一种十分初级的方式。

   搜索引擎的pagerank也是寻找一种关于信息的信息,它试图找到各种信息之间的关联,比如GOOGLE的评价方式:重要的网页往往也链结重要的网页。

  摘要这种关于信息的信息无疑是非常人性的,但也是低效的。

  我们在评估一个podcasting的重要性往往是通过朋友的推荐,朋友说“好看”,由于我们也去找来看看,比如“一个馒头的血案”,朋友给出的是评价,新浪新闻也是靠点击率来排次序的。

   不管是搜索引擎还是新浪们,其真正的价值或者说技术也在于掌握了信息的信息,但RSS这种方式对他们的模式来说,并不一定适合。

   搜索引擎帮助我们准确的找到信息,比如你可以搜“无极 恶心”,出来的的结果多半是恶评无极的,新浪则延续了近百年来大众媒介,特别是电子媒介的精华,提供越来越多与我们关系不大的新闻、娱乐化倾向严重的新闻、新浪基本不提供对个人真正有用的信息,新浪的娱乐导向与中央电视台的政策导向虽然表现很不一样,但没有本质上的区别。

   这大概也能解释新浪点击率最高的新闻为什么是社会新闻。

   但RSS和WEB2.0的一些工具想实现的有些不同:

 比如个 性化,你需要的与自己关系比较密切的信息,真正有用的信息,而不是天天都看看中东局势。

 社区化,你需要知道朋友们关心什么,朋友们对你关心的信息有否参与。

 RSS支持信息更加的分散化、更好的聚合。

  更重要的获得通过RSS传播的信息的信息,不用管是输出摘要还是全文还是输出标题,过不了多久,就不会有人再关心这个。

  看看新浪对博客内容的组织方式就知道,新浪对组织更为分散化的信息是多么的不适应,偏偏还有BOKEE学新浪的老方式来组织内容,想早早的一统博客圈,怪哉。

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